diff --git a/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/mod.rs b/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/mod.rs
index 15c2e2f..e4b413c 100644
--- a/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/mod.rs
+++ b/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/mod.rs
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 pub mod replies;
 pub mod context;
 
-use apb::{BaseMut, CollectionMut, ObjectMut, LD};
+use apb::{BaseMut, Object, ObjectMut, LD};
 use axum::extract::{Path, Query, State};
-use sea_orm::{ColumnTrait, QueryFilter, QuerySelect, SelectColumns, TransactionTrait};
+use sea_orm::{ColumnTrait, QueryFilter, TransactionTrait};
 use upub::{model, selector::{BatchFillable, RichActivity}, traits::Fetcher, Context};
 
 use crate::{builders::JsonLD, AuthIdentity};
@@ -27,7 +27,9 @@ pub async fn view(
 		}
 	}
 
-	let item = upub::Query::objects(auth.my_id())
+	let replies_url = upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies");
+
+	let item_model = upub::Query::objects(auth.my_id())
 		.filter(auth.filter_objects())
 		.filter(model::object::Column::Id.eq(&oid))
 		.into_model::<RichActivity>()
@@ -41,31 +43,17 @@ pub async fn view(
 		.with_batched::<upub::model::hashtag::Entity>(ctx.db())
 		.await?;
 
-	let mut replies = apb::Node::Empty;
-	
-	if ctx.cfg().security.show_reply_ids {
-		let replies_ids = upub::Query::objects(auth.my_id())
-			.filter(auth.filter_objects())
-			.filter(model::object::Column::InReplyTo.eq(oid))
-			.select_only()
-			.select_column(model::object::Column::Id)
-			.into_tuple::<String>()
-			.all(ctx.db())
-			.await?;
+	let mut item = ctx.ap(item_model);
 
-		replies = apb::Node::object(
-			apb::new()
-				.set_id(Some(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies")))
-				.set_first(apb::Node::link(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies/page")))
-				.set_collection_type(Some(apb::CollectionType::Collection))
-				.set_total_items(item.object.as_ref().map(|x| x.replies as u64))
-				.set_items(apb::Node::links(replies_ids))
-		);
-	}
-	
-	Ok(JsonLD(
-		item.object_ap()
-			.set_replies(replies)
-			.ld_context()
-	))
+	let replies_patched = 
+	apb::Node::object(
+		item.replies()
+			.into_inner()
+			.unwrap()
+			.set_id(Some(replies_url))
+	);
+
+	item = item.set_replies(replies_patched);
+
+	Ok(JsonLD(item.ld_context()))
 }
diff --git a/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/replies.rs b/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/replies.rs
index 861d811..2174699 100644
--- a/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/replies.rs
+++ b/upub/routes/src/activitypub/object/replies.rs
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
-use apb::{BaseMut, CollectionMut, LD};
+use apb::{BaseMut, CollectionMut, CollectionPageMut, LD};
 use axum::extract::{Path, Query, State};
-use sea_orm::{ColumnTrait, Condition, QueryFilter, QuerySelect, SelectColumns};
+use sea_orm::{ColumnTrait, ConnectionTrait, PaginatorTrait, QueryFilter, QuerySelect, SelectColumns};
 use upub::{model, traits::Fetcher, Context};
 
-use crate::{activitypub::{Pagination, TryFetch}, builders::JsonLD, AuthIdentity};
+use crate::{activitypub::{Pagination, TryFetch}, builders::JsonLD, ApiResult, AuthIdentity, Identity};
 
 pub async fn get(
 	State(ctx): State<Context>,
@@ -21,22 +21,21 @@ pub async fn get(
 		ctx.fetch_thread(&oid, ctx.db()).await?;
 	}
 
-	let replies_ids = upub::Query::objects(auth.my_id())
-		.filter(auth.filter_objects())
-		.filter(model::object::Column::InReplyTo.eq(ctx.oid(&id)))
-		.select_only()
-		.select_column(model::object::Column::Id)
-		.into_tuple::<String>()
-		.all(ctx.db())
-		.await?;
+	let replies_count = total_replies(&oid, &auth, ctx.db()).await?;
+	let replies_ids = replies_ids(&oid, &auth, ctx.db(), 20, 0).await?;
+
+	let first = apb::new()
+		.set_id(Some(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies/page")))
+		.set_collection_type(Some(apb::CollectionType::OrderedCollectionPage))
+		.set_next(apb::Node::link(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies/page?offset=20")))
+		.set_ordered_items(apb::Node::links(replies_ids));
 
 	Ok(JsonLD(
 		apb::new()
 			.set_id(Some(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies")))
 			.set_collection_type(Some(apb::CollectionType::Collection))
-			.set_first(apb::Node::link(upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies/page")))
-			.set_total_items(Some(replies_ids.len() as u64))
-			.set_items(apb::Node::links(replies_ids))
+			.set_total_items(Some(replies_count))
+			.set_first(apb::Node::object(first))
 			.ld_context()
 	))
 }
@@ -49,19 +48,40 @@ pub async fn page(
 ) -> crate::ApiResult<JsonLD<serde_json::Value>> {
 	let page_id = upub::url!(ctx, "/objects/{id}/replies/page");
 	let oid = ctx.oid(&id);
+	let (limit, offset) = page.pagination();
 
 	// TODO kinda weird ignoring this but its weirder to exclude replies from replies view...
 	page.replies = Some(true);
 
-	crate::builders::paginate_feed(
-		page_id,
-		Condition::all()
-			.add(auth.filter_activities())
-			.add(model::object::Column::InReplyTo.eq(oid)),
-		ctx.db(),
-		page,
-		auth.my_id(),
-		false,
+	let replies_ids = replies_ids(&oid, &auth, ctx.db(), limit, offset).await?;
+
+	crate::builders::collection_page(
+		&page_id,
+		offset,
+		limit,
+		apb::Node::links(replies_ids)
 	)
-		.await
+}
+
+async fn replies_ids(oid: &str, auth: &Identity, db: &impl ConnectionTrait, limit: u64, offset: u64) -> ApiResult<Vec<String>> {
+	let res = upub::Query::objects(auth.my_id())
+		.limit(limit)
+		.offset(offset)
+		.filter(auth.filter_objects())
+		.filter(model::object::Column::InReplyTo.eq(oid))
+		.select_only()
+		.select_column(model::object::Column::Id)
+		.into_tuple::<String>()
+		.all(db)
+		.await?;
+	Ok(res)
+}
+
+async fn total_replies(oid: &str, auth: &Identity, db: &impl ConnectionTrait) -> ApiResult<u64> {
+	let count = upub::Query::objects(None)
+		.filter(auth.filter_objects())
+		.filter(model::object::Column::InReplyTo.eq(oid))
+		.count(db)
+		.await?;
+	Ok(count)
 }